6.7 full-upgrade tends to break packages because they are marked as required

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Hi, I upgraded to 6.7

Upon next full-upgrade I obtained this:

Starting pkgProblemResolver with broken count: 4 
Starting 2 pkgProblemResolver with broken count: 4 
Investigating (0) pipewire-alsa:amd64 < none -> 1.2.6-2+24.04+noble+release+build3 @un uN Ib > 
Broken pipewire-alsa:amd64 Conflicts on pulseaudio:amd64 < 1:16.1+dfsg1-2ubuntu10.1 @ii mK > 
  Considering pulseaudio:amd64 0 as a solution to pipewire-alsa:amd64 103 
  Added pulseaudio:amd64 to the remove list 
  Conflicts//Breaks against version 1:16.1+dfsg1-2ubuntu10 for pulseaudio but that is not InstVer, ignoring 
  Conflicts//Breaks against version 1:16.1+dfsg1-2ubuntu10.1 for pulseaudio but that is not InstVer, ignoring 
  Conflicts//Breaks against version 1:16.1+dfsg1-2ubuntu10 for pulseaudio but that is not InstVer, ignoring 
Broken pipewire-alsa:amd64 Conflicts on pulseaudio:i386 < none | 1:16.1+dfsg1-2ubuntu10.1 @un umH > 
  Conflicts//Breaks against version 1:16.1+dfsg1-2ubuntu10.1 for pulseaudio but that is not InstVer, ignoring 
  Conflicts//Breaks against version 1:16.1+dfsg1-2ubuntu10 for pulseaudio but that is not InstVer, ignoring 
  Considering pulseaudio:amd64 0 as a solution to pipewire-alsa:amd64 103 
  Added pulseaudio:amd64 to the remove list 
  Conflicts//Breaks against version 1:16.1+dfsg1-2ubuntu10 for pulseaudio but that is not InstVer, ignoring 
  Fixing pipewire-alsa:amd64 via remove of pulseaudio:amd64 
  Fixing pipewire-alsa:amd64 via remove of pulseaudio:amd64 
Investigating (0) initramfs-tools:amd64 < none -> 0.142ubuntu25.8 @rc umN Ib > 
Broken initramfs-tools:amd64 Conflicts on linux-initramfs-tool:amd64 < none @un mH > 
  Considering dracut:amd64 3 as a solution to initramfs-tools:amd64 9 
  Added dracut:amd64 to the remove list 
  Conflicts//Breaks against version 0.1-5.1 for tiny-initramfs but that is not InstVer, ignoring 
  Conflicts//Breaks against version 060+5-1ubuntu3 for dracut but that is not InstVer, ignoring 
  Fixing initramfs-tools:amd64 via remove of dracut:amd64 
Done 
Entering ResolveByKeep 
Calculating upgrade... Done 
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: 
  dracut-core kpartx libddcutil4 libfwupd2 libpyside6-py3-6.10 libshiboken6-py3-6.10 pigz 
Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them. 
The following packages will be REMOVED: 
  dracut pulseaudio 
The following NEW packages will be installed: 
  attr brltty brltty-speechd cxx-rust-cssparser firefox fonts-symbola initramfs-tools kf6-kwayland libcamera0.2 libcephfs2 liblttng-ust-common1t64 
  liblttng-ust-ctl5t64 liblttng-ust1t64 libpipewire-0.3-modules-xrdp librados2 librdmacm1t64 libspa-0.2-libcamera liburing2 neon-common neon-desktop 
  pipewire-alsa pipewire-audio pipewire-module-xrdp pipewire-v4l2 plasma-desktop-data plasma-nano plasmalogin python3-dnspython qmlkonsole samba 
  samba-ad-provision samba-vfs-modules tdb-tools union 
The following packages will be upgraded: 
  neon-essentials-desktop neon-settings-2 neon-ubuntu-advantage-tools ubuntu-advantage-tools ubuntu-pro-client ubuntu-pro-client-l10n 
6 upgraded, 34 newly installed, 2 to remove and 0 not upgraded. 
Need to get 101 MB of archives. 
After this operation, 394 MB of additional disk space will be used.

I use dracut because I need TPM support for LUKS.

Pulseaudio is necessary for Rocksmith2014 cable.

Do I have to mark these packages individually to avoid having my system broken on next boot?

Thank for your advices.

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There is a pulseaudio API provided by pipewire, does that not work for you?

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please name your distro and try to address the issue there

packaging is almost always a distro issue

I guess it is KDE Neon, is this an exception as it is made by KDE?

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I see the same here. pipewire wants to get installed removing pulseaudio. I definitely to not want pipewire since I want to keep my pulseaudio/JACK setup. This is in KDE Neon.

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Yes, sorry, KDE neon user.

@barryascott I have no idea of how to use pulse audio yet. It always looked like another complication layer since I have no complex audion management to handle.

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Pipewire was written with the goal of replacing pulseaudio (no longer being developted) and jack.

I know it has a pulseaudio API so old apps still work.
Also thought it was able to replace JACK.
Pipewire was designed to be-able to do pro audio.

It world be worth your time investigating if it will work for your apps.

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OK, but how do I prevent the upgrade to remove dracut, that is supposed to be the replacement of initramfs… See the joke coming? :slight_smile:

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I can recommend to switch to Fedora KDE / Fedora Kinoite / KDE Linux instead

KDE Neon is always a crazy mess on upgrades, happened with the Plasma 6 upgrade too. No issues at all on Fedora Kinoite back then

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Not a proper solution, sorry. fedora is also missing packages that are deb only.

Plus, I have no plan to reinstall my system now.

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Is it possible to let the updater do its removal of dracut and then reinstall it?

Will it remove the configuration files or just leave them as-is?

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That’s how I got out of this madness:

sudo dpkg --force-remove-essential -r neon-desktop neon-common
sudo apt remove brltty
sudo apt install dracut
sudo dracut --regenerate-all --force
sudo dpkg-reconfigure plasmalogin  --> select sddm 
reboot

Now I am going to test plasma login and see of I can get back here.

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Plasmalogin works too.

initramfs-tools is a hard dependency to brltty. It should allow dracut to be fulfilling the dependency as well:

apt depends brltty
brltty
  Depends: initramfs-tools (>= 0.40ubuntu30)
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Followed up by bug report:

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In the mean time, one shall use the following to avoid having apt making tentative in removing dracut:

sudo apt-mark hold dracut

Looking forward for resolving dependencies of the dracut.