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Well, all I was telling you was from my own personal experiences with Nvidia with Linux in general. Seems like my suggestion to ditch Nvidia for AMD resonated with you. Unless you have any really specific need which requires you to use an Nvidia GPU (like video editing or doing AI stuff with CUDA), for most other use cases, Nvidia is pointless. And is a waste of money if looking for a new GPU. When competitors can do more or less the same for what it is that you want. And it’s clear the RX580 is a great upgrade to what you had. I have an RX580 too. Holds up nicely for the gaming I am into, especially for PS1 and PS2 emulation. :slight_smile:

Sure, Nvidia could give you an edge in gaming with specific titles. But for the majority of gaming, is it necessary? Especially since the drivers from Nvidia aren’t up to par on the OS you want to use?

Think about your use cases. Does it really require an Nvidia GPU? That is something to think about. When it comes to being useful and compatible, hype doesn’t matter. And a lot of people hype up Nvidia. For me, I didn’t care. As long as it worked. But since I switched to Linux, I steadily came to understand that Nvidia wasn’t worth the headaches. And returning to Windows wasn’t an option to me 8 years ago after seeing Windows 10’s release; especially with where Microsoft stands today on how Windows 11 is supposed to be with their creepy Recall feature.

Anyway, glad to know the video problems are gone. Plug and play. Right?

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Nvidia user here, drivers installed via the Nvidia Launchpad PPA, my KDE Neon install is faultless.

In all the years I’ve been running KDE Neon, Nvidia drivers have always been the least of my concerns.

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Great. But I have had experiences with both AMD and Nvidia. Dealing with Nvidia’s less than stellar drivers for 5 of the 8 years I’ve been on Linux for. And I can tell you that until Nvidia becomes plug and play like AMD or Intel on Linux, it’s still behind; especially when it comes to supporting Wayland as Xorg is dead.

Also, I would like to note that since I went all AMD back in 2020, the desktop has been much much smoother. And gaming has been a dream. I recall when I had an issue with an old game I play (Thief Gold). With my old Nvidia GPU, I couldn’t adjust the gamma in the options.

And when I upgraded to a new kernel, there were times I’d have to reinstall the drivers. And then fix screen tearing problems by editing the xorg.conf file.

But low and behold, when I popped in my RX570, those issues just disappeared. It was no headaches at all. And I didn’t have to do a damn thing (not even install drivers because it’s all provided by Mesa). It just works. And now I am can use Wayland without a hitch.

That is what Nvidia should be striving for when it comes to Linux support. Rather than make excuses to give mediocre support for Linux users as a whole. I mean, their Nvidia control panel hasn’t seen an UI upgrade since the Windows XP era (from how it looks on the Linux side).

All things considered, I’d rather have good drivers that are optimized for Linux; at the cost of AMD not providing a control center (not that I used it anyways).

Anyway, I am not shilling for either brand. I use what works. I am not emotionally attached to either AMD or Nvidia. And since I never want to run Windows on my physical hardware ever again in my life time, I chose AMD (and Intel). It’s not a wonder why Valve chose AMD over Nvidia for their Steam Deck after all.

Nvidia fails at optimization and making their drivers hassle free (as per my experience; which still seems to be relevant to some degree); especially with Wayland still. AMD and Intel? Both are plug and play and forget it. It’s just a fact of the situation. So, I chose the option that would give me the least headaches. Unless people are doing video editing, or AI nonsense, Nvidia is just pointless. And Ray Tracing? What use would most people have for that? Especially since the vast majority of games wouldn’t be able to make use of that technology?

Call me crazy, but it seems like money is wasted on features a fair amount of people would never use in their day to day computing/gaming when they go with Nvidia GPUs.

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I’ve also had experience with AMD. As stated, Nividia hardware/drivers under KDE Neon for a vast many years under X11 has been largely trouble free and well optimized provided you’re not trying to run bleeding edge kernels - Which shouldn’t be a problem under KDE Neon as it runs LTS kernel releases.

Games run great with NVENC, DLSS, Nvidia Reflex, and I can run FSR just fine.

As for the Nvidia settings panel under Linux, at least Nvidia have a settings panel under Linux.

I’m not experiencing the OP’s issue here at all, therefore I fail to see how the problem can be squarely Nvidia related.

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That tells me a whole lot of nothing. What experience on Linux with AMD? Especially in recent years (and not from 10/15 years ago)? At least I provided an explanation to my experiences with Nvidia on Linux.

And clearly you don’t understand. I was never trying to use bleeding edge kernels in the first place. Just the ones from the LTS.

Great. But those are features I’ll never make use of. Again, pointless and a waste of money. And I really don’t care if drivers still give problems due to Nvidia not making things easier. And I want a good Wayland experience. AMD and Intel are the best graphics for achieving that.

Especially since Nvidia is still working on fixing issues on Wayland that they should have ironed out years ago. Because I don’t want to go back to X11 (which is essentially dead now). And after dealing with Nvidia 4 years ago, I don’t see how much has changed (on X11 no less).

And I can say that my gaming has been way smoother with AMD on Linux. Especially where console emulation like PCSX2 is concerned.

I never used the settings panel for Nvidia GPUs even when I was a Windows user. So, what you’re pointing out is irrelevant to me. :smile:

Let’s see. Over the years, they never cared about providing decent Linux support. They still choose to create barriers that make the drivers they provide less optimized than their competitors. So, you can guess why Linus Torvalds gave Nvidia the finger. The truth of the matter is, Nvidia was never friendly to Linux users. They still aren’t to some degree. But surprise, they are just open sourcing their drivers now (after getting a scare from hackers or something). Though, it will take years to catch up to AMD and Intel in terms of optimization on Linux.

Finally, I understand how Nvidia can be nightmare for people using Linux. As I have had the same experience. And I don’t miss it. If you think there’s no problems, then good you. But not everyone’s experience is the same; that, or you choose to ignore the pitfalls Nvidia has on Linux.

Shill for Nvidia all you like. But me and the original poster came to a different conclusion. And we will use what is most compatible. So, we chose the alternative that gives us no headaches (zero). Deal with the fact that not everyone wants to be blindly on team green.

So, I’ll say it again; if you’re a Linux user, and you have a Nvidia GPU, then expect second class treatment from Nvidia for a good while yet. If you want to stay on Nvidia, then stick to them. Don’t take it as a personal insult if someone wants to use something different.