I see some are not heeding my warning to backup before doing the upgrade. Oh well.
Anyway, is there link someone can give me to get a version of the KDE Neon iso before 24.04 was dropped? Iād like to test this out in a virtual machine.
I am actually considering moving over to Tumbleweed should Canonical make Ubuntu suck more; them pushing ads in the terminal has not been attractive in the slightest (especially to me). So, seeing praise for that Tumbleweed distro is encouraging. Iām just too lazy to move to another distro right now. lol
Have you ever tried Mint? Its basically ubuntu without ads and with flatpak preinstalled. Also very stable for many years. But there is no option to preinstall plasma, so you have to install it manually.
Tumbleweed is generally less stable than (vanilla) ubuntu, Id say the frequency of updates breaking part of the system is closer to something like arch. I just used it to clarify how incredibly often neon has broken for me in the past few months
@phi I started out with Linux Mint 8 years ago; when they had their KDE version. But when they discontinued it, I moved to Neon due to that.
But after seeing what Canonical is doing to Ubuntu (like putting ads when apt is run, or when I log into a system via SSH), I have considered moving away from anything that is Ubuntu based entirely. Because what Canonical has been doing regarding ads in the terminal has been slipping into KDE Neon as well (as per my experience; which forced me to edit a config file to remove that). And undoubtedly, that will slip into distros like Mint, Zorin etc etc.
So, yeah. I have been starting to see Ubuntu based distros as somewhat of a turn off now. Thatās why should I ever reinstall my OS again, Iām gonna be going completely non Ubuntu. From what Iāve seen, Tumbleweed seems like a good candidate to possibly try out.
I swear, as time goes on, tech is just becoming more and more unbearable to deal with. Iāve degoogled everything (and even blocked all Google domains on my phone and tablet despite they run custom ROMs as a safe guard), and blocked much of big tech and social media domains via a PiHole server, and even set up my own SearXNG instance to filter that stuff out from my search results. I even removed social media buttons and links pointing to those domains to further clean up all the junk on the Internet.
I did all that just to have some sense of sanity in this tech dystopian nightmare of a world. Next thing to do is get a Linux phone along with a Linux tablet. And avoid all smart TVs like the plague, in favor of using a standard monitor.
I mean, wasnāt tech supposed to make life easier? It sure hasnāt with all these data monetization and ad pushing schemes. lol
Please note: neon will not touch your firmware. It may touch the GRUB entry, however and that may cause the symptoms you are experiencing, but the GRUB files are not firmware.
Pinging @jriddell . He will be able to help out for sure.
Been running linux well over two decades now. Not once, ever, have I upgraded a version. All I need is backed up in a very small bundle on some external ssd. I always do a fresh install. If I see the fresh one even has flaws, itās a nono for me. As for DEās, kubuntu, as an allrounder was my go-to. Not since 23.10. Error upon error stuffā¦not worth it. Iām on a debian (mx) 5.27. Best kde experience ever, without any doubt. That being said. If thereās one continuem in my linux days, itās that I ALWAYS have an openbox setup somewhere. Not lxde/lxqt whateverā¦purely openbox. Loaded with scripts and gui goodies. A Debian netinstall/minimal/openbox/tint2ā¦will carry you to Uzbekistan and back so to speak. Never failed me. One of the few āfeature completeā linux āproductsā. No update required sinceā¦dunnoā¦2011-ish? You can run it on a smart fridge. 
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I also never do an upgrade to the next release, always a fresh install. But, this one got me, I clicked the button without realizing what was really going to happen. lol. Paying for that one.
Thereās so much to like about KDE, every time I try another DE, I end up missing something KDE could do.
Iām typing this from Kubuntu 24.10. And yea, ug, Ubuntu and snaps. Snaps just always get in the way of something I need to do. Iāve disabled and blocked. Weāll see.
Well, I prefer to not reinstall my OS. Mainly because I donāt want to have to redo some settings; unless I have to. And things I have set up extend beyond that of my user profile (like GPU pass through). Iām lazy that way.
I would have gone with Kubuntu. But I never liked Snaps. Also, I mainly use Flatpaks now. So, that would mean I would have to remove application from the Kubuntu distro and replace them with Flatpaks. Too much work. Thatās why I turned to KDE Neon. To me, itās like a fresh installation of Windows 7 (blinded by nostalgia glasses).
Just tried to upgrade my laptop, and I also wasnāt able to upgrade due to dependency issues. Revert all the ppas, reinstalled groups of packages that seemed to be showing errors in the logs, removed, reinstalled, etc and I always get a huge amount of errors in the do-release-upgrade logs, but they donāt seem to be very clear of a specific point of failure.
In the process of returning my system to a usable state with 22.04, I noticed konsole(-kpart) isnāt currently available in the Neon Testing repositories (maybe failed to build?), and the do-release-upgrade script leaves a noble-overrides in /etc/preferences.d when the process fails, breaking all kinds of stuff afterwards too.
Iāll probably do a fresh install later on.
Are you using the testing edition?
I am. I compile and test kdenlive, so having the most current packages is somewhat helpful to find regressions.
I did have several PPAs I installed since the last upgrade to fulfil some needs not met by either Neon or Ubuntu. I wonāt complain about the update process since I may have fault (would be happier if the ppas system were more robust) in leaving my system in a state the upgrade script canāt recover.
I also have been using Ubuntu since warty, others before, and I recovered many times from this specific situation, ppa-purge has helped a lot since it became available. I know PPAs may help make the system unstable, but it was invented for a reasonā¦
Neon has been pretty stable since the start, but I canāt remember not being able to understand the dependencies issues, and upgrading. It would be nice to have a way to do a fresh install of the current installation, not an upgrade on top it, with new repository sources, but a fresh install using the packages installed.
I have to try the ISO to make sure there arenāt any regressions on my machine and reinstall my system on a new SSD or something like that.
I hope this is just a few people on a larger user base which had trouble with the upgrade, and that the User version doesnāt go through thisā¦
I always upgrade and without doing any install, I use Arch 
For years Iām on systemd-boot instead of the ancient and problematic grub.
After over 20 years on Debian based distros, maybe itās time to try something else. 
What would you recommend as a soft introduction to Arch?
The rolling release idea is tempting.
Has the Neon user version ISO (dated the 13/10/2024) changed to the new base or is it still using Jammy?
Iām playing with Garuda, and Iām impressed. A few helpful non-standard-KDE tools/GUIs. (I donāt care for the theme, but thatās easily changed.)
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You donāt need such a thing, you are already very experienced with GNU/Linux and basically thereās an easy installer nowadays (type archinstall), it will take you 5 minutes installing Arch with KDEā¦ no need to try opinionated distros that do more harm than good, vanilla Arch with vanilla KDE is perfect.
You donāt need much more than reading about pacman, the AUR and .pacsave and .pacnew
Use reflector once (if needed, donāt remember if the installer sets the list already) to get the fastest best synchronized ā10 servers or whatever # you likeā, use a GUI utility (residing in the system-tray) like kalu to update if you donāt like the terminal, update once a week, thatās it basically. Keep 2 kernels Iād say, the latest linux and linux-lts. Oh and you may need this: kernel-modules-hook , as otherwise you can be alienated 
Mind though that we are talking about KDE here, newest isnāt always the best (buggy) when major upgrades happen (from 5.27 to 6.0), otherwise itās fine 
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Thank you!
I donāt know how to live without the terminal! Iāve been missing Yakuake since itās broken due to the missing konsole packages in Testing.
I will follow your advice and try Arch on a new SSD, Iām sure Iāll be able to make the bridge to my knowledge on Ubuntu, etc, and there are many tutorials and manuals to follow too.
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Ahhh, a felow cultist 
āyakuake is love, yakuake is life broā . Too bad that the window (still) canāt be kept open when it loses focus on Wayland. 
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