KDE Plasma desktop issues remain after fresh reinstallation of Debian Linux

[WilsonEPhillips]

@ExXfceUser

Also, like you mention later, if I change the name after installation, I would also have to change an unknown amount of paths and things on the file system. It just becomes an unreliable, fragile, potentially broken mess.

Not if you use YAST, just as I said. YAST handles all of those links and stuff automatically. No one but SUSE does this.

[bedna]

Are you sure he can read your stuff here @WilsonEPhillips ?
He told me to stay away so that is mostly what I will do, just making sure you are not screaming into the darkness here. xD

[WilsonEPhillips]

@bedna

Are you sure he can read your stuff here

Well, he says I am not blocked and he reads every post. I just try to keep helping, but I don’t get the feeling it is appreciated.

It’s probably in my best interest to just walk away and be done with it.

[jessevarela]

Gnome is not intended to be used as a traditional desktop environment.

How To Use The GNOME Desktop Environment

[ExXfceUser]

@WilsonEPhillips

I literally gave you a way around the problem you have with a 1 character username. It gives you a way to fix the existing one safely and easily.

I saw it, and explained that I find it bizarre that this is necessary in the first place, and makes me completely lose faith in the openSUSE team.

@WilsonEPhillips

So many people here have bent over backwards to help you with the numerous issues

Let’s not go nuts.

@WilsonEPhillips

you always seem to make them out to be the bad guy.

I’m 99% convinced that you must be reading somebody else’s posts and attributing them to me. I seriously have no idea what you’re talking about with this.

@WilsonEPhillips

I could sit here and do “quote” after “quote” the way to do everyone else

What does this mean?

@WilsonEPhillips

Please stop biting the hand that feeds you.

Huh? I’m not “biting” anyone or anything. Once again, I have no idea what you’re talking about. I have noticed that some people are extremely eager to start trouble, though, and I can see why you would assume that I had blocked you. You must be experiencing that a lot if you have the same hostile attitude to them that you’ve had toward me for seemingly no reason.

@WilsonEPhillips

I just try to keep helping, but I don’t get the feeling it is appreciated.

I can “appreciate” a reply without necessarily “picking it as a solution”. I don’t want to “hack” their installer ISO. It’s crazy. It feels really bad psychologically. I don’t want to jump through hoops to fix the bug that the openSUSE developers have ignored even though they have known about it for ages. I find such an installer deeply insulting and it would drive me crazy trying to communicate with and get help from people with that mentality.

@WilsonEPhillips

It’s probably in my best interest to just walk away and be done with it.

Here you are strongly implying that you’re this “bigger man” who is “done with” this “annoying person” (me), even though I’ve not done anything to you whatsoever. Stop picking fights with people. You only create enemies by having an condescending or toxic attitude. I don’t understand people who behave like this.

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After lots of thinking, discussions and trying out Linux installers in VMs, I’ve concluded that any other Linux distribution is infeasible, and to keep running Debian and instead buy the cheapest possible AMD graphics card for my current system (to begin with). It will be extremely interesting to see if this fixes the Plasma desktop issues, which it should if the information I’ve been given is accurate. However, I still think that Plasma’s desktop should have a “CPU mode”, for those stuck with NVIDIA hardware.

[WilsonEPhillips]

Well, You worked it out to your satisfaction. Good for you.

[WilsonEPhillips]

@ExXfceUser

@WilsonEPhillips

I could sit here and do “quote” after “quote” the way to do everyone else

What does this mean?

It was a miss type. I meant to say "I could sit here and do “quote” after “quote” the way you do everyone else

You read way more into everything I said. Again, I am sorry that I tried to help. Please accept my apology.

[bedna]

@ExXfceUser

Huh? I’m not “biting” anyone or anything.

Yes you are, and tbh, I am surprised anybody answers your posts at all.

Every single sentence after people giving you advice or solutions is either “it is crazy I have to do that” or “it is soooo bad this is not automated like it is on windows”.

If you do not want to use linux, nobody is forcing you to.

@WilsonEPhillips

You read way more into everything I said. Again, I am sorry that I tried to help. Please accept my apology.

You did absolutely nothing wrong, don’t you dare apologizing.

[WilsonEPhillips]

I spent a fair amount of time going back through all of @ExXfceUser’s posts as listed in his profile. His profile is eye opening. It is amazing how many people have tried to help him only to see him turn on them.

I cannot overstate the amount of regret that I have for ever attempting to help him. It’s like letting a vampire into the house. I guess you could now say that the apology is to myself.

[bedna]

Lets try ONE LAST TIME.

@ExXfceUser

However, I still think that Plasma’s desktop should have a “CPU mode”,

That is not for plasma to control, that is for your drivers (or system) to control.
I for example use the nvidia driver called prime, witch means I can set my system to use my AMD cpu to render everything until I TELL my system to use my nvidia with using prime-run <command>.
I am not sure this driver exits on debian though so other methods might be needed.

So it is absolutely possible to render everything on the cpu instead of the gpu if configured correctly.

[ExXfceUser]

Phew! This is an extremely compressed summary of what I’ve done since my last post:

• I bought the cheapest possible non-NVIDIA graphics card in stock, which was an AMD one (“MSI Radeon RX 6400 4GB AERO ITX”).
• I took out the old NVIDIA card and put in the new one.
• I booted up my current Debian installation and sadly noticed that none of the glitches with the desktop were gone: the icons still couldn’t be moved around properly, and the wastebin icon kept looking full even though it was empty. I made sure to attempt to remove all traces of NVIDIA drivers and install the AMD stuff. Still the same.
• To make a long story short, I ended up reinstalling Debian from scratch once again just to make sure that there wasn’t something about my current setup which had been “locked” to NVIDIA/bad settings based on some initial Plasma configuration script in the installer or something like that. (Even though some people had assured me that this is not how it works on Linux.)
• To my surprise, Plasma now started up with nice, smooth icons that could be freely moved around, and the wastebin icon worked properly as well! Then I noticed that “Wayland” was used by default, so I made very sure to re-login with X11 instead. Still worked!

In other words, it appears as if it really was something to do with the NVIDIA graphics card after all. At least in terms of the objects moved around on the desktop being all “janky” and “glitchy”.

Some bad news, however: after some time of use, around the time when I had decrypted and mounted my other internal disks and deleted one of the files from one of those non-system drives, I suddenly noticed that the wastebin icon started acting up again. It now would again appear full when it was empty, and clicking “Empty wastebin” in a Dolphin window didn’t update the view before I pressed F5. Rats!

At first, since this happened just after deleting a file from one of the non-system disks, I went digging in the hidden folder called .Trash-1000 on that drive, but I didn’t find any items there which could have otherwise explained that the wastebin appears to contain items. But maybe this observation can help somebody think of a reason why this happens in my setup?

To make it clear: I simply cryptsetup open ... and mount ... to enable the non-system internal drives. They show up in Dolphin and everything seems correct. But apparently it causes the issues with the wastebin icon on the desktop appearing full. The “not updating Dolphin view” might be yet another issue, possibly solved by the “hack” suggested initially (which I haven’t dared to apply for some time in order to not “taint” the setup).

[ExXfceUser]

@WilsonEPhillips

I cannot overstate the amount of regret that I have for ever attempting to help him. It’s like letting a vampire into the house. I guess you could now say that the apology is to myself.

Alright, I’m now convinced that you actually have some sort of mental illness. I really thought that you had just misinterpreted something that I said, but you’re truly actively harassing me. Like I said a good while ago, when you started with your toxic attitude through this and your sockpuppet accounts: please simply don’t respond to any of my questions here. Your input is not desired because you have no sincere intention of helping anyone, but only to derail discussions and personally attack anyone who you pick out as a target. You insert yourself into others’ discussions with a desire to feel important and to have everything revolve around you. Kindly cease this conduct.

[WilsonEPhillips]

@ExXfceUser

Alright, I’m now convinced that you actually have some sort of mental illness. I really thought that you had just misinterpreted something that I said, but you’re truly actively harassing me. Like I said a good while ago, when you started with your toxic attitude through this and your sockpuppet accounts:

Please elaborate on the sock puppet accounts. I am sure several people would like to know more about this. @sitter would be the person who could verify anyone that you might suspect to be me. If you want to make these accusations, what names am I using to do this? Let’s hear those names sir.

[dzon]

You guys are married right?

[WilsonEPhillips]

No, but obviously he thinks multiple people are harassing him and that they are all me in multiple accounts. Mr Sitter is the only one who has the ability to look into it.

[ngraham]

All right, I think this thread has run its course. It was confirmed that the NVIDIA GPU was indeed the source of most (but not all, of course) of the issues originally encountered, just like folks had been advising. Closing the thread now.

Please start new threads to discuss new topics.