I can use the library to create new entries from the timeline but when I do, be it video or audio clips (or both), the entry is made fine as expected however the effects in the clip/s are not brought over to the new project when dragged onto the timeline in the new project.
I know I can save effects in a stack but it is a bit cumbersome if you need the same, say audio effects, in several videos.
Is the solution to use sequences (a feature I am not comfortable with yet) or is there another way I have missed.
A library item is saved as an .mlt file with everything embedded. So, when you add it to the timeline, it’s just like a clip you downloaded from somewhere else. You can add effects, but if you had effects applied before you created that library item, they are not explicitly listed and hence cannot be changed.
I don’t know how easy or difficult it would be to change the way library items are stored so that the effects are preserved for editing, but I am sure it is worth a feature request. Can I bother you to create a wish list item in the official bug tracker for Kdenlive? Thanks!
Hi. Absolutely. I can do that but I am not entirely I understand your answer.
So when you create a library item using “from the timeline”. That library item has “everything embedded” meaning what exactly. Because I only see the video clip when importing/using it in another project. I am unsure of what everything means, as in if you agree that effects are not embedded/saved into the library item or… I assume (very dangerous thing to do) that you agree hence the suggestion to put this feature on the wishlist. But then what does everything being embedded mean (I am learning kdenlive bit by bit).
This is a simple test clip (a video with a Transform effect applied) I added to the library:
And this is how it looks in the Project Monitor after adding the clip from the library to the project and timeline:
You can see that the effect stack is empty but the library clip has been resized and positioned correctly (like in a PiP situation).
So, if you wanted to change the position or scale, I can of course apply a Transform effect but it looks at the clip as one filling the screen:
IMO, it would make sense and offer much more flexibility if the effects applied to the clip in the library (or, technically speaking, applied before it was added to the library) would appear as such in the effect stack of that clip. For example, if you have applied a color effect to that clip in the library but for the current project you don’t want that you cannot change it (unless you fiddle with color effects to try to reverse the first).
Aha… So when I say that the effects were. not transfered. They were but (static) embedded. It is just that I couldn’t “see” them in the effect stack tab or on the clip in the timeline so I thought they were not there.
Thank you for the enlightenment. That’s pretty cool though.
I agree with you that if the effects were carried over to the mlt library item as real editable effects it would be really great.