Why don't you just do bug fixes for 1 - 2 years?

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I know what you are getting at but I would be happy if I had the option to say “I want the desktop with all the news” or “I’d rather have an LTS of KD5 and if KDE 6 has LTS status then take KDE 6” etc.
Unfortunately, there is apparently no LTS of KDE. Otherwise I would have asked EndeavourOs if it would be possible to offer this.

First of all, I think it’s good that they are planning for the next 10 years and are also driving the technology forward. And I think it’s a great pity that a lot of things have been thrown overboard here and you now have to start again to replace things that don’t work.

As far as the cache and the configuration settings are concerned, this refers to the last section of ben2talk.

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I have been using the same $HOME content since I switched from SuSE to Debian in 2001.

The only time an update required any significant manual adjustment was with the transition from the classic KDesktop setup to the first Plasma.

Which is understandable since it was such a major technology update.

The only change I applied after the Plasma 5 → 6 transition was to make my main panel “not floating” as it was before.

If I ever had to manually adjust configuration of a KDE application it has been so long ago that I can’t even remember.

The fact that you can recompile each branch is great, but unfortunately of no interest to a pure user

I only mentioned that for completeness since you said that there was no way of getting KDE software before it was released.

Obviously this option is the most involving but there are several easier options if someone wants to contribute by testing the development state or betas before each release.

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Can you please be more specific about what exactly has gone wrong? You keep writing things like this:

I genuinely don’t know what you’re referring to here, and it does does not match my experience, nor the experience of most people, I think. If this were the case, we would be deluged with bug reports about it.

Can you please provide specific examples of what has broken after applying upgrades?

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But you’re welcome.
I love KDE, but I don’t like the way it has developed recently.
I don’t want to belittle or insult anyone, but it really hurts me when I realize how badly you can work with it today compared to the last KDE 4 version.

Maybe that’s why you didn’t get so many error messages because most people don’t even know how to report an error. And the others have come to terms with it or switched straight away - I switched to XFCE, for example.
You have already lost many users in the last few years because of something like this.

But let’s get to the real issue first. I always used KDE when I tried Linux. The first version was KDE 2 and the last was KDE 6.
KDE 4 was the best - at least in the end. Easy to use and efficient. Simply great.

After the upgrade from KDE 4 => KDE 5 there was nothing left of KDE 4, neither in the background images nor in the settings. I basically started from scratch.
It was clear to me that I could not / did not want to work with KDE 5, so I ignored it.

When I decided to switch to Linux in 10/2020, I installed XFCE because KDE was just cumbersome and I didn’t want to go through the disaster again. Nevertheless, I always had it as a 2nd desktop on my computer in case things got better.
At the moment I also have problems with KDE 6. For example, I have problems getting Boomaga and Screenshot to run - although to be fair, I’m not sure if KDE has anything to do with Boomaga. The problem started when I switched to KDE. I have the feeling that non-KDE programs don’t run smoothly anymore.
Today, for example, I have a problem with the separation of virtual desktops and activities. Anyone who has ever accidentally moved something from an activity to a virtual desktop knows what I’m talking about.

But when I switched from KDE 5 to KDE 6 (I’ve only been using it constantly for 4 weeks at most) it works halfway the way I want it to. Even though I miss compize effects - as there doesn’t seem to be a complete replacement for it and so I avoided the initial difficulties. It was always updated but not used throughout.
That’s why I only have the changeover in the back of my mind.
I had set up a test profile under KDE 5 to see how well the switch to KDE 6 worked.
It worked better than I feared, but not as well as it should. If I remember correctly I had to set up the activities and background images again.
When there were other minor issues I went back to XFCE - until a few weeks ago. It appears

Now I’m trying to make friends with KDE 6 again but we’ll see how it turns out.

I hope I haven’t digressed too far.
In any case, I will always submit errors so that it is clear what is meant.

Even if I have little hope that they will be fixed. Some of them have been hanging around for 10 years.

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I’m afraid we can’t help you if you keep speaking in generalities peppered with passive-aggressive insults about the software. This method of communication may help you feel better personally to “vent” a bit, but it doesn’t help solve problems.

I’ll ask again:

Can you please provide specific examples of what has broken after applying upgrades?

And preferably, the examples should describe brokenness in KDE software. Problems with 3rd-party apps not running are usually not related to anything we have control over.

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I think you will still agree that the transition from Plasma 5 to Plasma 6 is much more painless than from version 4 to 5?

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Ok, since we seem to be talking at cross purposes, let’s drop it.
It’s just a pity that no one has answered the question of why bug fixes are not made for 1 or 2 years, but that the focus is on continuing like this. Or is the answer: “Because nobody wants to? ”

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Now from 4 to 5 was hard to top, but you are right, it seemed to run better than from KDE 4 to KDE 5, but I still had to rework.

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I answered it very directly right here: Why don't you just do bug fixes for 1 - 2 years? - #8 by ngraham

Looks like this isn’t going to end up anywhere productive; closing the thread.

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