Apt autoremove wants to remove plasma-framework6 and libkf6pulseaudioqt4

I have all the latest KDE Neon updates according to Discover and pkcon. apt autoremove wants to remove plasma-framework6 and libkf6pulseaudioqt4. Are these safe to remove? If not, any tips on how to resolve this?

If the packages are already installed on your system, running apt autoremove shouldn’t remove the exact packages that were already unpacked. Running apt autoremove removes dependencies for other packages that were already installed. :smile:

You can check to see if plasma-framwork6 and libkf6pulseaudioqt4 have been removed by running:

dpkg -L plasma-framework6
dpkg -L libkf6pulseaudioqt4

Those commands should show you a complete list that pertains to the package.

The reason why I’m hesitant is that autoremove has broken my system in the past on Neon. I ran a simulation before and after updating to plasma 6.1 and got the following results:

Before update

Remv libkf6pulseaudioqt4 [1.4.0-0xneon+22.04+jammy+release+build18]
Remv plasma-framework6 [6.0.5-0xneon+22.04+jammy+release+build19]

After update

Remv kio-fuse [5.1.0-1+22.04+jammy+release+build3]
Remv libkf6pulseaudioqt4 [1.4.0-0xneon+22.04+jammy+release+build18]
Remv plasma-framework6 [6.1.0-0xneon+22.04+jammy+release+build23]

so now it wants to remove the newly installed plasma-framework6. I think it may be time to switch to another KDE-based distro?

I see what you have going on.

The libf6pulseaudioqt4 build 18 is staying at the same version before and after the update. That’s ok.

After the update the plasma-framework6 looks like it was upgraded from 6.0.5 build 19 to the new 6.1.0 build 23.

What is the output of:

kf6-config --version

You could switch to another KDE distro if you’d like.
I recommend Debian 12 or Arch Linux.

From Neon to Debian 12? For what, to get 5.27.5? :smile: . I’d pick Arch or Fedora if Arch wasn’t around I guess.

Though Fedora is kind of “amazing” too, like try removing maliit-keyboard there :sweat_smile:

That command does not seem to exist on my Neon 22.04 system…

mace:~$ kf6-config --version
Command 'kf6-config' not found, did you mean:
  command 'kf5-config' from deb libkf5kdelibs4support5-bin (5.92.0-0ubuntu1)
Try: sudo apt install <deb name>

mace:~$ kf5-config --version
Command 'kf5-config' not found, but can be installed with:
sudo apt install libkf5kdelibs4support5-bin

I’ve been messing with Manjaro and Kubuntu a bit in VMWare. I think I’ll give Arch and Fedora a go too just to get a feel for them. I’ve heard good things about Rocky too, but not sure if it’s the best choice for a desktop system (Rocky is essentially CentOS, but the old way).

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Not sure why that command didn’t give you output.
Worked fine on my KDE Plasma Slackware system.

slackware64:~$ kf5-config --version
Qt: 5.15.3
KDE Frameworks: 5.90.0
kf5-config: 1.0

I really enjoyed running Manjaro in the past. It ran really well on my M2 drive. Manjaro and Arch are rolling releases so keep in mind that some of the updates can be like 1 Gig and take up the drive quickly.
Fedora ran very well on my Sony Viao for about 3 years.

Yeah, Rocky Linux is good. A gentlemen I chat with from the Virginia Linux Users group uses it for the hospital that he works for. More of a server class distribution for the workplace.

I wish you all the best, Mace with your distro of choice.

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Thanks, didn’t know Debian12 is using an older version:-

Agreed, Fedora is amazing. Ran it for many years. Had zero problems. The package management was a tad more than I had wanted to learn but hey, it’s all good.

Thanks!

OpenSUSE Tumbleweed is looking very good to me at the moment, even though I’ve never used any SUSE linux before. Just feels like the best fit so far since Fedora gave X11 the axe. I like Wayland and where it’s headed, but still need X11 for some things for now.

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You’re welcome.

OpenSuse was nice when I was running it on the desktop about 7 years ago. Gecko Linux which is based on OpenSuse is pretty cool too!

I’m with you on still needed X11 for some things.

Have a great weekend and let us know which disto you go with:-

I think I’ll go with Tumbleweed initially. I’ll be keeping an eye on OpenSUSE Slowroll’s progress too though.

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Sounds like a good plan, Mace:-

If Yast (GUI Pkg Mgr) ever gives you a issue you can use zypper update with root privileges in the command-line to update the system.

Enjoy!

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hah I put amazing in quotes so I didn’t mean that literally, was trying to tell how every distro has its own crazy idiosyncrasies, in this case if you try to uninstall that virtual keyboard package it will tell you that it would remove plasma-desktop as well… :roll_eyes: . Why such a hard dependency on something so insignificant… only Fedora knows…

I wouldn’t use Slowroll, sounds like a bad idea to begin with if you use external repos that are being updated with Tumbleweed in mind like Packman (or there are 2 streams now, no idea, but I doubt it), (similar to Manjaro & the AUR) you could break your system (or the very least be annoyed by being asked which version to keep all the time and solving dependecies manually yourself…)