Cannot get full height of image being panned V-25.12.0

V=25.12.0 Asus x870e ProArt, CPU:Ryzen-9-9900x,RAM:96gb ECC,GPU:Radeon Rx7600xt,SSD:2x Samsung 4tb,Monitor:BenQ PD3225U Mobiuz 4k

I’m trying to pan a 6443x1096 image left to right using Positiion & Zoom but only get 1/3 screen height with Scale=100% or 200%. Scaling to 200% widens the guide lines but vertically truncates the image.

What am I doing wrong? I didn’t have this problem with earlier versions.

TIA

Instead of the Position and Zoom effect, try the Transform effect.

And what are your project settings? What OS?

I thought I had replied but I guess I haven’t. Thanks for chiming in! I’m still not getting anywhere with this, so instead of trying to explain what I’m messing up I’ll just say what it is tha I wanbt to do :-1:

The OS is Suse Tumbleweed, kdenlive-25.12.0, what are PROJECT SETTINGS? The initial difficulty of full height is fixed by selecting “Fit to height” if using “Transform“ effect.

The image is 6109*1140, I want to

1

pan it right to left for the duration of a related mp3 file of about 4 minutes, with keyframes to sync with certain positions in the audio (i.e. uneven speed).

2

start position: left edge at about 3000 i.e. middle of screen (on a 4k screen, different ifwhile on my laptop)

3

end position: right edge at about mid screen (left edge around -3000)

Go to File > Project Settings and you get this:

It shows the project dimension aka frame size. In my example this is a normal 1080p project with a frame size of 1920x1080 (16:9 aspect ratio). This determines more or less what the final video will be unless you use the rescale option during rendering.

In the Kdenlive Settings turn on Keep Original Frame Size:

Then load the 6109x1140 image and put it on the timeline. If Kdenlive scales it to fit the project dimensions, use the Fit to Height or Adjust to original size buttons in the Transform effect:

Then create the keyframes for the horizontal scrolling.

I have resized the image to 5787*1080 to minimize issues,

Settings ARE set to keep original FRAME size.

When I place the image from the project bin to the timeline it shows a reasonable frame as would be expected.

I next set the first keyframe to have the left edge about mid screen (position 1000) at the beginning (this one STILL looks about as expected).

Then I set the end keyframe to show the right end of the image to be about mid screen (position -1000) and THIS is where it all goes south.

It looks like instead of moving the image the effect is moving what was the first content in the frame instead. The right edge of the display is always what was the right edge of what fiorst fit into the 1920 frame.

Doesn’t matter if I click “Fit to width“ the right half of image never shows.

Do you mind sharing the image so that I can test it? DM me with a link or the image in case you don’t want to share globally :wink:

Certainly, it’s mostly a bunch of archeological figurines ripped off he net here and there.

I had three or four images and screenshots ready but being a nobody I was allowed to attach only one :slight_smile:

I should also change the subject to ‘unable to get full width’, or ‘unable to get ‘off-frame size’ segment to work in frame size. I tried to include a 4k .mp4 in my 1080 project and couldn’t do that either (did a manual job using ffmpeg).

Thanks for sharing the image.

My test results:


First keyframe at X=1000


Last keyframe at X=-1000

Looks good to me.

Important is to disable the built-in Transform effect on the clip in the bin or not add a Transform effect to the clip in the bin. Bring the clip into the timeline. Kdenlive may still fit the image to the project’s horizontal dimension, in which case you add a Transform effect (or use the built-in one but on the clip in the timeline!) and click on the Adjust to Original Size button. Then set you keyframes as desired.

T h a n k y o u

I finally got it! It would help if input fields (like the W H Pos etc) had bubble-help saying what they were. The documentation just says “this is where all the action is” but I was thinking that those were for the display frame and kept editing the X box back to 1920. Not only is Kdenlive a huge and complex application but it’s also being developed and changing constantly. Each time I open it up after a year or so I’m completely lost.