Greetings, I’m encountering a strange behavior with Dolphin, but I’m not sure if it’s a bug or just something on my end. I wanted to ask for your opinion.
So, I have enabled both the option to remember the last session and the option to remember the “view style” for each folder. Normally, new folders are displayed ordered by name (A-Z, with folders first). However, for some reason, when I set this ordering option for the Downloads folder, after closing and reopening Dolphin, these settings are forgotten, and the items in the Downloads folder are shown grouped and ordered by modification date. I have no idea why this is happening. This behavior occurs only in the Downloads folder. There is no .directory file inside, so I really don’t know what could be the cause.
I have also uploaded a video here for demonstration purposes.
I find it baffling how some of the worst Windows 11 features sometimes make their way to Linux desktop environments. Latest Mint added obnoxious Secure Desktop effect (that can’t even be disabled) and Plasma has this annoying default grouping for the Downloads folder just like Windows 11. Why? Who needs this?
It can be disabled though: click the hamburger menu->More->View-> uncheck Show in Groups. And if that doesn’t stick then yeah, create your own downloads folder somewhere else or name it something else like My Downloads or something.
I’d recommend you to use the per-folder view setting.
It does not add hidden files anymore, and will allow to define your own style for the download folder once and be down with it.
If a billion dollar company did it, we can imagine they did some amount usability testing, polls or research. It is also the most popular OS on the planet (as-of-now) so plenty of people are familiar with it.
Dolphin is a community project, no money with a ridiculous number of users comparatively. Might as well piggy-back on their research and users expectations.
The one tool we have to know is bugs.kde.org by tracking the most popular bugs, anything else is just not very relevant.
Fortunately we do sometimes implement features from other DE/OS, it is one of the best way to learn and grow. Sometimes they do implement ours.
Yes, as far as I remember when selecting the option to remember the “view style” for each folder I’ve always find the Download folder to be ordered by modification date and grouped but just now I have this problem when ordering by name. So it must be a bug.
Thank you very much to both of you, but honestly I would prefer to stick to the xdg standard than use a workaround.
I’ve reported this problem as a bug (I’ll leave here the link for future references).
Sorry, I think that the per-folder view is the one I’m using (i.e. remember the “view style” for each folder. You mean the second option in the view style as set in the image below, right?)
“If a billion dollar company did it, we can imagine they did some amount usability testing, polls or research.”
Microsoft? Testing? Polls? Research? So that’s why we have the atrocious start menu in Windows 11 that is universally hated and at least three different third party apps exist to replace it and WinaeroTweaker is about to hit 6 million downloads. As well as many more Windows features that so many people complain about. I guess Windows 8 was also the result of extensive testing, polls and research
So, piggybacking on that "research? may not be the best idea. Windows 7 was basically the peak Windows. Most stuff that MS added since then to Windows are frustrating annoyances that people are trying to remove from Windows.
I’m sorry meven, but the only “testing” MS does is asking what their investors want. MS stopped caring what users want a long time ago. And it’s maddening when I see that sort of “features” added to Linux DEs.
KDE Plasma/Dolphin as well as most of KDE software are without a doubt the best UI/UX one can get on Linux and by far. And I hope it stays that way. Nothing comes even close. Cinnamon used to be pretty good, until recently, but there is literally nothing else out there.
