How do I properly set the language with a fallback?

[Roy-Orbitson]

On Kubuntu 23.10 (from a fresh install), I am having trouble getting apps to display in the right language. They are falling back to U.S. English so I get “Airplane mode”, “Colors”, etc. I didn’t have this issue with my previous Kubuntu machine, continuously upgraded through several non-LTS releases, which I migrated my home folder from.

In System Settings I get this warning atop the language list:

It implies it will use that list in order to find translations, but it’s ignoring British and going straight to a default.

I don’t expect a separate translation of all KDE apps into en_AU, it wouldn’t differ, it’s mainly for formatting because we don’t use £, nor leading zeroes on days and months. For some reason, Linux still thinks we and NZ use 2-digit years but that’s generally discouraged.

I can set my locale to en_GB, but that then wants to force only that variant on everything else. It also tells every server I SSH into the wrong locale, even though they support en_AU. I can work around it by setting individual formats, but it’s not great UX. I’d expected to be able to select one language, which clearly the system knows about, and have it be smart enough to display the closest possible alternative.

I tried

sudo localectl set-locale en_AU

and (as per the Arch wiki)

sudo localectl set-locale LANG=en_AU.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=en_AU:en_GB

and setting same in ~/.pam_environment, and of course

sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales

selecting AU as the variant. None result in Plasma displaying with a sensible fallback.

Am I doing something wrong? Is there anything I can do to get it to respect that language list in the settings GUI?

[bedna]

2 Different configs:

On arch: /etc/locale.conf (the one configured in /etc/locale.gen and generated using locale-gen, probably what is read when you SSH)

The kde settings: ~/.config/plasma-localerc (for your desktop thingies)

[Roy-Orbitson]

Thanks @bedna, those are where my choices are set, already:

# cat /etc/locale.conf 
LANG=en_AU.UTF-8
LANGUAGE=en_AU:en_GB:en

$ cat ~/.config/plasma-localerc
[Formats]
LANG=en_AU.UTF-8

[Translations]
LANGUAGE=en_AU:en_GB:en

The problem is that with these settings, Plasma & KDE apps don’t fall back to British like I think they’re meant to, and display in American.

I’m not on Arch but the locales get generated the same way when I use dpkg-reconfigure. The locales are there, and work for shells, SSH, etc. If I use the “wrong” locale of en_GB it fixes Plasma but breaks the locale for shells, etc.

I’m following this Environment Variables wiki and the GNU gettext docs that say “the LANGUAGE variable’s value can consist of a colon separated list of locale names.”

[bedna]

I’ve never actually used translations, but it looks correct according to documentation.

Sorry, I have no idea.

[tneo]

I’m running into a similar issue. I want KDE to show 24hr clock everywhere and ISO date. I’m not able to get any application to have a fallback language and only en_US is available.

Have you been able to solve this issue?