considering the Flatpak-only nature of KDE Linux, am I just locked out of certain apps?
Use Kdenlive instead!
… Or try and convince Davinci to make a Flatpak, I guess.
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See KDE Linux/Install software not available in Discover - KDE Community Wiki; there are several options. If DaVinci resolve can’t be acquired using any of those options, then yeah, you’re locked out of using it. This seems unlikely, though.
Is/opt even part of the immutable image?
Unlike /usr it sounds like a location that one could use as a mount point or link from.
It’s not; only /usr is immutable. /opt is a perfectly fine location to install 3rd-party system-level software to.
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suggesting Kdenlive as a replacement for Resolve Studio is…. certainly… brave, like trying to sell GIMP as a Photoshop replacement, but I do hope Kdenlive will continue on improving.
TBH even on arch this is the way I recommend GitHub - zelikos/davincibox: Container for DaVinci Resolve installation and runtime dependencies on Linux as its dependencies break quite often unless you stop it from updating.
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Kdenlive need easy amd/intel/nvida support before it can step into those leagues. All the AMF and cuda stuff should be no more the a toggle in settings as its a major roadblock.
And yeah no way they make a flatpak or appimage of it. Unless management has some big change of heart.
would I then be able to use the Arch package manager to install to /opt?
No, KDE Linux doesn’t include Arch’s Pacman package manager. GitHub - zelikos/davincibox: Container for DaVinci Resolve installation and runtime dependencies on Linux is probably the way to go.
Well, Photoshop is becoming an abusively expensive source of nightmarish and restrictive antifeatures, that systematically violates its users’ privacy and copyrights to generate environmentally damaging AI slop, while GIMP is still free and improving with every version.
So the comparison works for me.
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My understanding was that Resolve’s installer used /opt/resolve as it target location.
If that is true then nothing needs to be done on a package or distribution level
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Absolutely can’t disagree with you there - the philosophy of FOSS stands true, but neither GIMP or Kdenlive have feature parity with their closed-source competition, Kdenlive particularly is some two decades behind Resolve, Hollywood would use Kdenlive, if Kdenlive was appropriate
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This is the “if we make something good people will use it” mindset, which is not necessarily based on reality. The history of tech is littered with top-notch inventions that never made it, but lesser, worse options did succeed because of… reasons: they got to stores first, the creators had more money for ads, they gamed the market, or whatever.
If Kdenlive ever supposed a threat in the marketplace to Adobe’s offering, Adobe, who has its grimy little sinister fingers in every video-editing community, association, and event, would be right behind us, trying to trip Kdenlive up with FUD, market manipulation, even patent lawsuits…
… And shills opining things like “Well… If Kdenlive were so great, why isn’t everybody using it then? QED”.
PLEASE NOTE THAT I am not calling you a shill. I am just saying it is not a good idea to believe everything people say in forums (present company excepted 
), what seems obvious is often fake, and not everything’s face value is its real value.
I also feel you may not have used Kdenlive in some time. You should seriously give it a go. It’s a banger.
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The best way to install Resolve is to use their installer. Like mentioned, it will put it in /opt/resolve and create several .desktop files that will appear in the app launcher.
The trouble with Resolve is that it is only supported on Rocky Linux. Anything else will require some work to get running properly.
Usually it’s a matter of moving a couple library files from resolve’s install directories so it uses the distro’s. Normally that works, otherwise you might need to make symlinks, but in theory that can be done via /usr/local/lib or an environment variable like described in the Arch Wiki.
I do use Resolve, and can try installing it on KDE Linux later this weekend to see if I can manage a to-do or something.
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They are not competing. One of them is competing for monetary profits, while the other is fighting for freedom (as in freely). This seems to be the favorite dictionary definition these days:
1: the act or process of competing : rivalry: such as
a: the effort of two or more parties acting independently to secure the business of a third party by offering the most favorable terms
Hollywood is a massive source of influence, and a product of some of the richest concentrations of power in human history. If GIMP or Kdenlive was “appropriate” enough, Hollywood would still have something at least as “appropariate” (normally much more “appropriate”), and be still using it instead, unless they ceased to exist. Usually no problem as long as they can put a peace sign in a frame on a wall.
I took a note of one of the replies to some known programmer’s Twitter post at the end of 2023 asking “Why do people still use Windows?”, probably eluding to the fact that Windows was the favorite operating system in da house, and it was largely as follows:
For different reasons:
For tech-oriented individuals, it’s like being a power user.
For power users and programmers, it’s like being in a 5$tar alliance.
For video gamers, it’s like taking a powerful sedative for dreams within dreams.
For militaries, it’s like owning some land without boots on the ground.
For shrewd folks, it’s like owning a military.
For the rest, it is what it is: a cheaper Mac.So like it or not, you can make a fortune in the show business with natural endowments like Windows’.
Frankly, it felt like the author had a minor confusion between residential buildings and clubs at the time of replying, although to learn to git good with free softare is a good advice to the people who wanna be free, I would say.
They’re both competing for hearts and minds.
I love free (as in freedom) software, but if it doesn’t do what I need it to do it’s not very freeing. I’m still stuck with the proprietary software.
Kdenlive is great admittedly. It’s not as fully featured as Resolve, but it’s great for up to intermediate editing tasks. I use it myself sometimes and recommended it to friends and they’ve liked it because it takes care of all their needs in a video editor.
I will reserve my comments about Gimp because I want to remain polite. Besides, I’m a Krita fan myself. 
I will use Blender as a stand-out example tho. They do view other 3D modeling/animation apps as competition, want to make a great product that fits their users needs, and it’s served them (and FOSS software) exceptionally well. I’m still tangentially involved in the game industry, and I would put money down that Maya and 3DMax will be mostly irrelevant sometime in the 2030’s if not sooner.
It’s simply because it’s becoming harder and harder to find people who know either of those apps. All the upcoming artists know Blender, and Blender does a great job matching the needs and integrating into the pipelines of game productions. It’s so widely used that addons are relatively inexpensive simply because of economies of scale and wider competition, including many using GPL.
Blender is a huge success story, and has done a great deal in promoting the ideal of freedom that FOSS offers.
Speaking of Hollywood, this year’s Academy Award for Best Animated Feature went to Flow, which was created using Blender.
Healthy competition is good! And it’s possible to take on entrenched players.
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I got DaVinci Resolve working under KDE Linux, but it was super messy.
I’d go with the container option mentioned earlier.
For those curious, I ran the Resolve installer, followed the library adjustments here, and downloaded and compiled/installed libxcrypt directly to /opt/resolve/libs
It runs, but it is probably the least elegant thing I’ve done all week, which is saying something because I’m naturally clumsy.
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Competing for the hearts and minds (of the people) sounds extremely personal. I hope whoever is in that kind of competition are indeed personal, because the best ones in that kind of competitions are the most “professional” ones, who tend to make only calculated mistakes, which are very difficult to imitate, I have a feeling.
I doubt free software is competing with anything other than free software. If you don’t need it, you’re free not to use it. The real success of any free software would be to free people, where their decking proprietary giants, getting adopted by big tech companies, or getting awards is fun to watch, and should make the news to be honest.
Contrary to the popular blief (and to Hollywood), nobody can (or will) really free people but the people themselves, although it must be usually okay to get help.
GIMP’s workflows are kind of unconventional, and hence nonintuitive. It’s the only application I use for complex image manipulation. Developing an image editor that can be (and is) used professionally is a herculean task, which is currently undertaken by only but a handful of exceptional programmers in the GIMP’s case, it seems.
Strangely enough, I also happen to have taken a note of one of the comments in a YouTube video about GIMP (and Photoshop), where touching Photoshop memories were shared, and strictly insisting on free software was referred to as a wrong hill to die on specifically due to the lack of feature parity. The comment was largely as follows:
Don’t know if this video was a response to a follower who was against using Photoshop, but it almost sounds like an advertisement for some webcam influencer advocacy group on YouTube. Wrong hill to have personal software usage just fine without advertisements indeed. Photoshop will be fine with fans, take a guess if you can be fine without it. I doubt one can be the only fan of it, not professionally anyway. The Smiths were a cult band in the 80s, and it seems they still have followers. This is a nice channel, and you look like a nice person in the woods with a powerful PC. Godspeed.
Frankly, it somehow felt like the commenter had seen both marketing gimmicks in the video, and cult behavior in the Video’s motives, whatever those may be, but it surely reminded me of the social media posts of NSA, which kinda usually felt like “welcome to the 21st century! Learn how to spyspeak, and communicate efficiently by saying choice instead of free.”
That’s why normally there are classes in competitions right. One of the first things that a first-grade classmate of mine said when we met again after about 15 years (no less) was “bro you were running so fast”. It was funny. If something like that happens to you, you know you were fast. However, I personally wouldn’t consider any running event outside the elementary school a competition to be honest :]
Actually, does GitHub - zelikos/davincibox: Container for DaVinci Resolve installation and runtime dependencies on Linux work? The instructions say it needs lshw pre-installed on the host system, which we don’t do.
KDE Linux does have libxcrypt pre-installed, so at least in theory the files could have been symlinked into /opt/resolve/libs/ rather than compiled from source using a tarball from the upstream release.
Or was the problem that we don’t have /usr/lib/libcrypt.so.1*, which comes from libxcrypt-compat?
I have a feeling this is something that’s going to come up more and more often. I’ve created a stub for it in in KDE Linux/Install software not available in Discover - KDE Community Wiki
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I’ve done something similar on CachyOS, however, I am inquiring about Resolve Studio specifically and not Resolve, my understanding is that the former has a slightly different install process (due to the VFX part of the app?)… I have never used Resolve but I’ll also give it a try on my current system and see what I can come up with