Kdenlive UI shows lag when loading a project

you can see in this video the behavior:

the UI is very unresponsive, even when hovering over the icons kdenlive takes a lot of time to react.
Any ideas?

Kdenlive: 25.04.0
Package Type: Unknown/Default
MLT: 7.30.0
Qt: 6.9.0 (built against 6.9.0 x86_64-little_endian-lp64)
Frameworks: 6.13.0
System: EndeavourOS
Kernel: linux 6.14.4-arch1-2
CPU: x86_64
Windowing System: wayland
GPU: AMD/AMD Radeon Graphics (radeonsi, renoir, ACO, DRM 3.61, 6.14.4-arch1-2)
Movit (GPU): disabled
Track Compositing: qtblend

Hio, and welcome to the forum and community.

Why is your mouse pointer switching to a hand when hovering over the monitor controls? Mine doesn’t do that (I’m on Pop!_OS and using the 25.04 Kdenlive Flatpak).

I think it is part of the problem, it takes time to switch from the hand to the arrow… very slow responsiveness

So you changed something in the (system) settings of your distro or DE, right?

I haven’t and I don’t experience the same delay in mouse pointer changes. Very snappy UI responsiveness here.

The only area where a hand is used in Kdenlive is when hovering over clips in the timeline to indicate something can be dragged. Everywhere else the mouse point is just an arrow, no pointing index fingers or anything. So I reckon you changed something in your settings or use a widget for your mouse pointers which may cause the delay.

here goes some terminal debug info in case it’s useful

Starting render server
mlt_repository_init: failed to dlopen /usr/lib/mlt-7/libmltrtaudio.so
  (librtaudio.so.7: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory)
mlt_repository_init: failed to dlopen /usr/lib/mlt-7/libmltmovit.so
  (libmovit.so.8: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory)
profilePath from KdenliveSetting::mltPath:  "/usr/share/mlt-7/profiles"
meltPath from KdenliveSetting::meltPath:  "/usr/bin/melt-7"
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qt.multimedia.ffmpeg: Using Qt multimedia with FFmpeg version n7.1.1 GPL version 3 or later
Failed to open VDPAU backend libvdpau_nvidia.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
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qrc:/qml/Ruler.qml:252: TypeError: Cannot read property 'timecode' of undefined
qrc:/qml/Ruler.qml:239: TypeError: Cannot read property 'scaleFactor' of undefined
qrc:/qml/Ruler.qml:240:13: TypeError: Cannot read property 'scaleFactor' of undefined
qrc:/qml/Ruler.qml:252: TypeError: Cannot read property 'timecode' of undefined
qrc:/qml/Ruler.qml:239: TypeError: Cannot read property 'scaleFactor' of undefined
qrc:/qml/Ruler.qml:240:13: TypeError: Cannot read property 'scaleFactor' of undefined
qrc:/qml/Ruler.qml:252: TypeError: Cannot read property 'timecode' of undefined
qrc:/qml/Ruler.qml:239: TypeError: Cannot read property 'scaleFactor' of undefined
qrc:/qml/Ruler.qml:240:13: TypeError: Cannot read property 'scaleFactor' of undefined
qrc:/qml/Ruler.qml:252: TypeError: Cannot read property 'timecode' of undefined
qrc:/qml/Ruler.qml:239: TypeError: Cannot read property 'scaleFactor' of undefined
qrc:/qml/Ruler.qml:240:13: TypeError: Cannot read property 'scaleFactor' of undefined
qrc:/qml/Ruler.qml:252: TypeError: Cannot read property 'timecode' of undefined
qrc:/qml/Ruler.qml:239: TypeError: Cannot read property 'scaleFactor' of undefined
qrc:/qml/Ruler.qml:240:13: TypeError: Cannot read property 'scaleFactor' of undefined
qrc:/qml/Ruler.qml:252: TypeError: Cannot read property 'timecode' of undefined
qrc:/qml/Ruler.qml:239: TypeError: Cannot read property 'scaleFactor' of undefined
qrc:/qml/Ruler.qml:240:13: TypeError: Cannot read property 'scaleFactor' of undefined
qrc:/qml/Ruler.qml:252: TypeError: Cannot read property 'timecode' of undefined
qrc:/qml/Ruler.qml:239: TypeError: Cannot read property 'scaleFactor' of undefined
qrc:/qml/Ruler.qml:240:13: TypeError: Cannot read property 'scaleFactor' of undefined
qrc:/qml/Ruler.qml:252: TypeError: Cannot read property 'timecode' of undefined
qrc:/qml/Ruler.qml:239: TypeError: Cannot read property 'scaleFactor' of undefined
qrc:/qml/Ruler.qml:240:13: TypeError: Cannot read property 'scaleFactor' of undefined
qrc:/qml/Ruler.qml:252: TypeError: Cannot read property 'timecode' of undefined
qrc:/qml/Ruler.qml:239: TypeError: Cannot read property 'scaleFactor' of undefined
qrc:/qml/Ruler.qml:240:13: TypeError: Cannot read property 'scaleFactor' of undefined
qrc:/qml/Ruler.qml:252: TypeError: Cannot read property 'timecode' of undefined
qrc:/qml/Ruler.qml:239: TypeError: Cannot read property 'scaleFactor' of undefined
qrc:/qml/Ruler.qml:240:13: TypeError: Cannot read property 'scaleFactor' of undefined
qrc:/qml/Ruler.qml:252: TypeError: Cannot read property 'timecode' of undefined
qrc:/qml/Ruler.qml:239: TypeError: Cannot read property 'scaleFactor' of undefined
qrc:/qml/Ruler.qml:240:13: TypeError: Cannot read property 'scaleFactor' of undefined
qrc:/qml/Ruler.qml:252: TypeError: Cannot read property 'timecode' of undefined
qrc:/qml/Ruler.qml:239: TypeError: Cannot read property 'scaleFactor' of undefined
qrc:/qml/Ruler.qml:240:13: TypeError: Cannot read property 'scaleFactor' of undefined
qrc:/qml/Ruler.qml:252: TypeError: Cannot read property 'timecode' of undefined
qrc:/qml/Ruler.qml:239: TypeError: Cannot read property 'scaleFactor' of undefined
qrc:/qml/Ruler.qml:240:13: TypeError: Cannot read property 'scaleFactor' of undefined
qrc:/qml/Ruler.qml:252: TypeError: Cannot read property 'timecode' of undefined
qrc:/qml/Ruler.qml:239: TypeError: Cannot read property 'scaleFactor' of undefined
qrc:/qml/Ruler.qml:240:13: TypeError: Cannot read property 'scaleFactor' of undefined
qrc:/qml/timeline.qml:512: TypeError: Cannot read property 'visibleSequenceName' of undefined
qrc:/qml/timeline.qml:2179: TypeError: Cannot read property 'recordState' of undefined
CLOSING TIMELINE:  QUuid("{b63eecba-6b1e-4a47-8e62-14828104fed8}") , INSTANCES:  1
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LOCALE: Document uses  "."  as decimal point and  "C"  as locale
Searching for locale: Found  QLocale(English, Latin, United States)  with match type  0
FOUND MLT PROJECT VERSION:  7  /  30  /  0
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Loading audio levels from cache "/home/geoma/.cache/kdenlive/1745293538497/audiothumbs/c6864e0dc55f44cea7b78fd1271a8c23_1_29_audio.dat"
Loading audio levels from cache "/home/geoma/.cache/kdenlive/1745293538497/audiothumbs/d417bcc091c2b2bfd5848a05b2268928_0_29_audio.dat"
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============= LOADING INTERNAL PLAYLIST:  QUuid("{3659f672-9159-4367-a82f-91843dfa1ec4}")
Subtitle constructor
Tractor!
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ass File
 correct ass file   "/tmp/1745293538497-{da9d5c11-e985-4d4f-b7de-c5835ad83851}.ass"
Saving subtitle filter:  "/tmp/1745293538497-{da9d5c11-e985-4d4f-b7de-c5835ad83851}.ass"
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"mute" : Setting parameter  "gain"  to  "0"
XML parsing of  "mute" . found 1 parameters
WARNING: Unknown type : "fixed"
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===== QUERYING TRANSITION:  "mix"
===== QUERYING TRANSITION:  "qtblend"
===== QUERYING TRANSITION:  "qtblend"
################### ProjectClip::setproducer #################
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// replace finished:  "3"  :  <tractor>
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root context get sub model new function
root context get sub model new function
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qrc:/qml/ClipAudioThumbs.qml:84:9: QML TimelineWaveform: Binding loop detected for property "waveOutPoint":
qrc:/qml/ClipAudioThumbs.qml:97:13
qrc:/qml/ClipAudioThumbs.qml:84:9: QML TimelineWaveform: Binding loop detected for property "waveOutPoint":
qrc:/qml/ClipAudioThumbs.qml:97:13
qrc:/qml/ClipAudioThumbs.qml:84:9: QML TimelineWaveform: Binding loop detected for property "waveOutPoint":
qrc:/qml/ClipAudioThumbs.qml:97:13
qrc:/qml/ClipAudioThumbs.qml:84:9: QML TimelineWaveform: Binding loop detected for property "waveOutPoint":
qrc:/qml/ClipAudioThumbs.qml:97:13
qrc:/qml/ClipAudioThumbs.qml:84:9: QML TimelineWaveform: Binding loop detected for property "waveOutPoint":
qrc:/qml/ClipAudioThumbs.qml:97:13
qrc:/qml/ClipAudioThumbs.qml:84:9: QML TimelineWaveform: Binding loop detected for property "waveOutPoint":
qrc:/qml/ClipAudioThumbs.qml:97:13
...
qrc:/qml/ClipAudioThumbs.qml:97:13
=== FOUND THUMB IN CACHE
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// SHOW KEYFRAMES:  true
^A

Yes I have changed settings in my system, but I am using the default theme with KDE breeze cursors.

Nothing in there that’s hinting at why there are UI delays.

any ideas of where to check?

Try switching from Wayland to X11. There were other reports about strange UI behavior, and Wayland was found to be the culprit …

ok. I will try… but anyway… X11 AFAIK is kinda obsolete/abandoned so probably it’s worth it to solve any wayland problems that might arise
thanks!