Konsole: how to get rid of the Alt-E shortkut?

Hi,

I have my irssi windows on Alt0-9 for Windows 0-9 plus Alt Q to O for Windows 10-19. Alt-E opens Konsole’s Edit Menu instead of calling up Window 13.

i NEVER use the Edit Menu with a keyboard shortcut.

How can I get rid of that shortcut?

Greetings
Marc

hi, welcome.

for global shortcuts (available across all applications) the shortcuts settings is the easiest way to change or disable a shortcut.

click anywhere on the background and type “shortcut”, then go to the settings page that appears in the search results.

the search field can be used to either find commands you want to assign shortcuts, or find shortcuts that are assigned to commands.

for application specific shortcuts like in konsole, you can go to menu, settings, configure keyboard shortcuts ( or use ctrl+alt+, )

by default, using alt+e on my konsole does nothing and does not seem to be applied to any global function either.

when i set up konsole as shown, it will switch to the 13th tab using the alt+e shortcut without issue.

Disable or reassign Alt-E in Konsole’s Settings > Configure Shortcuts to stop it opening the Edit menu. If it’s not there, check your desktop environment’s global shortcuts.
Restart Konsole after changes, and Alt-E will work for irssi.

I reassigned Alt-E in my Konsole settings to “About Konsole”, and hitting Alt-E in a Konsole window still opens the Edit menu. My desktop Environment is KDE Plasma, but “About KDE” in Konsole doesn’t say which version it is. Konsole itself says it’s version 25.04.02 running on KDE Framework 6.13.0 with QT 6.8.2.

When I follow your directions, I end up in Control Panel’s Shortcuts Applet, and there, Alt-E is mapped to “Export”. That’s also what I inadvertently invoke when I hit Alt-E in the search field.

Greetings
Marc

(I might be a newbie here, but I am a user of KDE (Plasma) for over 20 years)

i don’t have anything mapped to alt-E

do you use alt-E in another context?

if not why not just remove that global binding and that should free it up for konsole.

No, I have not set that binding manually. And I don’t see the global binding anywhere. That’s why I am asking this question, where might a global binding be?

you said in your previous post that …

I end up in Control Panel’s Shortcuts Applet, and there, Alt-E is mapped to “Export”.

i have no such binding

in fact i don’t have any items that match with “export” either, but maybe you have app installed that i don’t.

i’m suggesting you clear that binding (unless you are using it for something else), because that would be my most likely suspect as to what is causing your konsole bindings to not switch tabs the way you expect.

Okay, that was my problem. I just held the Alt key and typed E, while you obviously typed “alt+e” as in three letters a, l, and t, plus, e. After doing so, I see exactly the same as you see on the screenshot you sent. So I don’t have a key binding for Alt+E, which is what I am trying to say for the better part of today. If there is a key binding for Alt+E, I don’t see it, and so it doesn’t help me to say that I should “just delete it”. I need to be told WHERE to delete it.

when you click on the desktop and use alt+E, what happens?

should be nothing, but if a window comes up take a screenshot and post it

open a konsole window and use alt+E, what happens?

should also be nothing, but if a window comes up take a screenshot and post it.

and also call up the konsole shortcuts menu and post a screen shot of that so we can see what keybindings are set up in your konsole.

last thing to try is create a new user and see if this weird phantom alt+E behavior occurs in that session as well.

Nothing

The Edit menu pops up as if I have clicked on “Edit”.

should also be nothing, but if a window comes up take a screenshot and post it.

The forum software wouldn’t allow me to add five attachments. Neither it allows me to add links. Gee. I have uploaded to https colon double slash www dot zugschlus dot de slash stuff, look for the “Screenshot” files.

Not going to do this today. Will report back.

What totally confuses me: Alt-E has been the shortcut for the Edit menu in all graphical environments I have seen since Windows 3.1 (and I have seen a lot, incuding Motif and very early Macintoshs). Konsole’s behavior does not surprise me at all. What surprises me is that you all act as if it was totally exotic behavior to have the Edit menu pop up when Alt-E is typed. And, frankly, I would not be surprised at all if somebody told me that this behavior cannot be disabled.

Greetings
Marc

Depends on the Language :slightly_smiling_face: here in Germany it´s Alt-B (Bearbeiten) and Alt-E does nothing (unless there would be another Menu option that starts with E of course), and that even back at some “graphical”/full-screen DOS applications.

What Distro and or Plasma Window decoration is that?
I do not have that “Hamburger-Menu” for the main Menu or the “Pin-Window” icon at the left and non of my available Plasma 6 Design settings can set it to that. (Konsole 25.04.2 Framework 6.15.0 with QT 6.9.1 otherwise.)
That is what it looks like for me:


And with the Menu enabled:

With Konsole (on KDE Plasma 6) I could just disable the Menu, like shown in my first picture it should be the default, (uncheck “Show Menu” at the Settings Menu) and Alt-E would not open the Edit menu anymore, at least in a “LANG=C” environment (where I have tried that) Alt-E does nothing now and should be free for your own usage.
In my German environment on the other hand, it is not, instead of opening “Einstellungen” from the Menu it now pastes the clipboard content (Einfügen), maybe after additionally removing that from the toolbar it would be free(?). But that just as a side note, not tried that.

ah, got it.

uncheck the box

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I tried that first, but it did not work in the German environment, maybe because it is not a menu accelerator but a toolbar accelerator at that point.

i doubt german has anything to do with it.

when the box is checked it will activate the edit menu when either the hamburger menu is present in the title bar (via window decorations settings) or when the menu bar is active (via ctrl+shift+m).

when neither of those menus are present the alt-E will have no effect, so you could try just removing the stupid hamburger menu from the title bar and using ctrl+shift+m to hide the menu bar.

regardless of which menu is present, unchecking the box disables the alt-E function.

you may need to restart konsole for any of these changes to fully apply (esp when it comes to the stupid hamburger menu).

if this is not the behavior you see, then your konsole install is bugged somehow and you can file a bug report or try reinstalling it along with deleting any of your .config files for konsole.

Except that (by default) the Toolbar is enabled in my case and in german there is “Einfügen” (Paste) in that toolbar that is used with Alt-E even with unchecked “menu accelerators”. That threw me off from that solution. And no there is no shortcut binding for that otherwise.

But that should not matter for Zugschlus if he uses English.

but if you disable the menu AND the burger, does alt-E still give you the “Einfügen”

it should not because there is no active menu to “accelerate”, regardless of the menu function evoked.

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If we talk about the same thing because, with the Breeze window decoration and even with the other 2 that I have available, I do not have a “burger” it looks in german like this:


The “Toolbars” as kind a second menu below the menu.
With “Enable menu accelerators” checked Alt-E opens the “Einstellungen” (Settings) menu.
With “Enable menu accelerators” unchecked Alt-E acts as “Einfügen” (Paste).

And if the Session-Toolbar (right half of that “Toolbar”) counts as “burger” then YES.
After that gets hidden/disabled, together with the unchecked “Enable menu accelerators”, that finally disables the Alt-E function completely.

oh, so any menu or toolbar with an “E” in is activated by the accelerator as long as those menus or toolbars are visible.

that makes sense and it also apples the hamburger menu which you can display inside the title bar by going to the window decorations settings page.

they are ALL affected by the accelerator check box being enabled and a alt+[whatever] key combo will activate any submenu that begins with [whatever]… which can vary by language.

TIL
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Thank you :heart: that helped and solved my issue. I must have enabled that ages ago because I often use the keyboard instead of the mouse, but in Konsole this seems inappropriate.

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