Today I have seen an offer to update from KDE neon. When I pressed a button in a tray, it showed me that I need to update packages. I looked at Discover and I didn’t see anything, so I used pkcon update and some packages were updated. After that I could start update. I agreed with everything that was recommended by the installer. But it was strange that the installer said it will delete kdenlive and waydroid, but ok, I have thought that I can install it again later.
Then my PC was restarted by the installer and I saw a login window. I passed my password and I saw my KDE neon. But there is no Discover, no Dolphin, no KDE Connect, no screenshoter, and some my apps were deleted including Google Chrome. It’s strange because some apps were not deleted, like Telegram, Krita. And there is no even konsole and pkcon, so I just can install some packages using dpkg in XTerm and that’s all.
I really love KDE neon using it last half year. But it’s not okay, when I use OS like a usual user and I have to deal with such a mess. You write that User Edition is stable, but now you know the truth.
I will really appreciate it if you can help me in some way. And I will also try to provide as much information as possible in some way from my side.
SOFTWARE/OS VERSIONS
Operating System: KDE neon 6.2
KDE Plasma Version: 6.2.1
KDE Frameworks Version: 6.7.0
Qt Version: 6.7.2
Did you keep good snapshots and backups? Initially I would be inclined to timeshift back before the upgrade and look again.
Basically, it might be easier to start with a completely vanilla desktop (delete .cache too) and start fairly fresh - hopefully it’s not much more than your $USER data that’s messing stuff up here.
Try making a new $USER to verify your issues first.
No, this is about Ubuntu LTS updating — previously announced that KDE Neon rebased on 24.04 LTS.
There are no snapshots or backups. I’m a Windows user, so I thought that creating snapshots are built into the OS. It’s a strange logic to create backups for every update. It means that I can’t trust my OS, because today everything is okay, but tomorrow it could be broken.
Making a new user doesn’t help me. As I understand, I should create a new user, using System settings → System → Users, isn’t it? The new user has the same set of apps (without Discover, as I said).
I downloaded Dolphin deb-package and installed it to backup my files from $HOME. It’s time to reinstall OS, because I don’t want to recover every app that was deleted.
Snapshots does not mean you can’t trust your system, they are a safety net… I’m not sure why that’s ‘strange logic’. You had an experience I never had.
I did have my system SSD fail though - which is why you should keep backups… because beyond trusting your OS, you should never actually trust that your data is safe on your SSD.
Making a new user has the same set of applications installed, but without the USER data. If an update somehow goes wrong (something I haven’t experienced for 5 years) then it’s good to have snapshots…
I’m not sure why other distributions don’t follow the model set by Linux Mint where part of the Welcome package is to tell you to choose how you set up your snapshots and backups.
Also, try to realise that KDE Neon is not really a stable distribution - so I do think Kubuntu will be more what you want (with a less cutting edge Plasma experience).
So next up:
Set up Timeshift to do snapshotting on your system drive.
Set up something like back-in-time to automatically create incremental backups.
I’m not sure why other distributions don’t follow the model set by Linux Mint where part of the Welcome package is to tell you to choose how you set up your snapshots and backups
That’s really important part. Everybody sees plasma-welcome, but there is nothing about it.
I’ve gone through all the stages from denial to acceptance, so I don’t regret that I won’t get some Plasma experience. Stability is more significant. Moreover, sometimes Plasma will be updated, so anyway I will get it. Maybe, later, but without any issues.
Everybody around me was surprised that I faced these problems after updating (somebody has just updated from 18 to 24, easily). Well, now I’m setting up Timeshift. I hope this will solve many future problems. Thank you for your attention to my problem!