You can try to stop the indexer yourself using balooctl suspend or balooctl disable or systemctl --user stop plasma-baloorunner.service (or all of these), then start it again after you finished with the purge command.
balooctl6 status
balooctl6 disable
balooctl6 purge
systemctl --user mask kde-baloo.service
balooctl for plasma 5 and balooctl6 for plasma 6.
If it is disabling you are after.
Otherwise above answer provides the info. You need to stop it first.
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The text was apparently not clear enough so I made it bigger not to miss. xD
If you only disable it in the Plasma settings I have on multiple occasions caught it active and indexing again (after system updates).
Masking the service makes this never happen again.
Please don’t mask the Baloo systemd service - unless you want to permanently disable it, and even then turning it off from the File Search Configuration in System Settings is probably a better idea: it will be easier to find it if you ever want to turn it back on.
@bedna, in which case, why does the balooctl command continue to be invocable in cpe:/a:kde:plasma:6.0.2, and the balooctl6 command not exist on my system?
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sections for some time, then outputs that same section again, and hangs at that line.
Impressively, whilst the window was unresponsive, I somehow managed to switch KCM views!
PS /home/RokeJulianLockhart> gdb kcmshell6
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If your system has the Baloo service as kde-baloo.service then that’s fine I guess - it isn’t the KDE naming convention so it’s up to your distributer to figure that out.
I don’t think the KCM problem explains the balooctl problem, but it is an indication that the packager had messed stuff up and mixed different versions of libraries. You should open a bug report with your OS.
I’m not particularly confident of what to say. I certainly could merely report that opening the Baloo KCM hangs it, but I’d like to be somewhat more specific.
To look at the Baloo service, you should try systemctl --user status kde-baloo.service, as it’s a user session service.
Regarding reporting - reporting that the user experience has problems (the KCM hangs) is always a good start. If you can share the warnings you found about the cyclical dependencies, that I believe will also be useful.
In other words, it crashes/fails and doesn’t do any indexing for me until I manually re-enable it. And then, after a while, it crashes/fails again.
Seems like my problems with this began ever since I disabled it in the Settings configuration. I just wanted to see if it would improve system speed/stability having it disabled. My conclusion is that when it is working correctly its impact on system speed and stability is nil, but now on my box I can’t get it working correctly for any extended period.
Although I don’t like that it’s decided that my shell is now its stdout:
PS /home/RokeJulianLockhart> balooctl enable
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systemctl --user status kde-baloo.service^C
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At least closing that tab didn’t kill the indexer.
What a mess. Without any stack traces, I don’t even know where to pinpoint the bug to file. Perhaps if this occurs when I next reinstall my OS, I’ll consider filing a formal report then.
Yea, I’m familiar with that problem and I hate it as well. Some balooctl commands start background services without properly disconnecting from the console. I’m pretty sure someone already reported this in bugs.kde.org, but I can’t be bothered to find it now, sorry.
Just to clarify, what do you mean by that?
If you start something in cli that is usually not started in cli, you usually WANT to have tty chatter and stop it with ctrl + c. It’s not necessarily a bug.
Take steam as example, you WANT to see the output when starting it in cli. It’s a soft way of debugging so to say.
If you want it to go to the background you have to send it to the background with commands like bg or disown
@bedna, this is different, because if you check my log, it’s dumping it to the interactive shall prompt, not taking hold of the shell, meaning that [^C] doesn’t work, and I can continue to invoke commands whilst it’s outputting:
The way balooctl sometimes start bacground service - for example when running balooctl enable - is similar to when a shell script does something like this: ( while true; do echo test; sleep 3; done & ) after that script is executed, there’s a process that outputs to your console, it is is the background and cannot be stopped with CTRL+C, you can continue interacting with your shell prompt and the output is just annoying.