Plasma 6 Logo - Final Selection and Poll

The option to vote for the current logo was removed for clarity. The option for no change is up to the Plasma devs. Even if not changing the logo got 0% of the vote, the plasma devs could still overrule, and keep the current logo.

So yeah, sorry about that!

squares and half gear could be combined, so that the squares replace the circles and remove a gear tooth, so it becomes 3 squares and 3 gear teeth to equal 6 ā€˜pointsā€™ for lack of a better way of putting it.

Like this but done more professionally, instead of just me playing around with GIMP: https://i.imgur.com/lVZf44m.png

it almost looks like the number 6 belongs in the white space in the middle. (i flipped some shapes positions and colors just to see)

just my 2 cents, i like all the designs.

Change will not increase exposure. Any improvement should follow old logo.

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I wouldnā€™t be in principle against changing the logo if is an improvement (and yes, the current one isnā€™t particularly great), but sorry i donā€™t really feel it for any of those :confused:

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Hi! Iā€™m the third Plasma Dev here, along with David and Carl, whoā€™d like to point out that this is not the correct way to propose such a change, IMO. If this had been discussed previously with Plasma Devs we couldā€™ve come up with a nice way and timeframe to do it; had we done a public competition we wouldā€™ve gotten much more answers, with appointed judges instead of a public poll that can easily be skewed, and doing it now is quite risky since weā€™re way past feature freeze and changing a logo would require significant changes.
Instead, you proposed to make this poll by saying ā€œeh, people are proposing logos, so we have to make some sort of poll so that they donā€™t complainā€, creating excitement around something that might very well be shot down when it reaches Plasma devs, who werenā€™t asked or informed about this. As David said, this can only antagonize us.
I also donā€™t really see why this poll is required in the first place? Why only propose three ideas to plasma devs? Whatā€™s wrong with six? We could absolutely look and discuss at six instead of three. The whole thing feels very pointless and arbitrary.

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Thatā€™s a pity. They were chosen purely on the basis of how many likes they got in the other thread :person_shrugging: . But allow me to reiterate: in no way is there any expectation that the Plasma devs change it.

If they do, nice. If they donā€™t, oh well.

OR

At some point you the devs could find a logo you do like not in the list.

As stated above, you and your friends, as devs can do what you want with this, or indeed nothing at all.

If someone antagonizes you over this, after all the very explicit bold-lettered disclaimers shown above, it will be because they are having a bad day, not because of this poll.

As far as I understood in the original thread, it was promo that asked for a logo to promote Plasma 6. Where did you intent to put the logo and to represent what ? An event ? Something else ? And unless it is a logo with a date and name of the event, people will have no clue what does the logo represent.

We asked designer for a logo for the Plasma 6 campaign, some kind of shorthand graphical element we could drop into images and videos to signal ā€œHey! This is part of the Plasma 6 promotional campaignā€, like a visual slogan.

Here, Iā€™ll show you what I mean:

The origami 6 was not supposed to substitute the current Plasma logo. It was just meant to be part of the an intro clip for a longer video showcasing Plasma 6 features, or whatever

None of these are good.
Addendum:
With the exception of the half gear variant which at least harkens back to something we can recognize as KDE, these are all bland nothing-burgers that embody the ā€œlook at me Iā€™m nondescript generic abstract art that nobody knows what Iā€™m supposed to be or mean because itā€™s mysterious and awesome, you see? such grace and majesty in the undefined, unremarkable, indistinguishable from the other million logotypes just like me! Iā€™M UNIQUE!!!1ā€ aesthetic some people think implies smart design.

Thereā€™s nothing inherently wrong with these designs. They just donā€™t make a good fit for KDE/Plasma. Thank you for enjoying my worthless opinion. Now go form your own.

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That video is nice but from what I understand by looking at it, it means you put the current want to the trash and replace it by a new one. I know it is not the original intent, but that is what the video suggests.

Jesus Christ, you guys.

The logo is not thrown away, it is just unfolded and then used to build the 6. This you could see as representing Plasma as an ever-evolving desktop and technology with lots of possibilities and that can be molded into whatever you want.

Or maybe it is just a cool looking animation.

As a non-dev looking from the outside, the disclaimer sounds like a ā€œIf you pick something dumb, we reserve the right to throw it out,ā€ (a sort of anti-Boaty McBoatface protection) not a ā€œHereā€™s a poll that has not been discussed or received the blessing of the appropriate leadership.ā€

I was very much under the impression this had the same kind of legitimacy as the wallpaper contest, and agree it does seem kind of backwards to throw up a poll without first having a formal decision to change the logo and to solicit proposals for a new one.

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Nope. You canā€™t pick anything dumb, because (a) there were no really dumb options in the original thread and (b) the six options presented here were already voted as the most liked elsewhere, so there are no bad answers.

I was very much under the impression this had the same kind of legitimacy as the wallpaper contest,

Your impression was wrong and nowhere was this said or even remotely implied.

and agree it does seem kind of backwards to throw up a poll without first having a formal decision to change the logo and to solicit proposals for a new one.

Okā€¦

Everyone saying they prefer the old logo could simply change it back in plasma settings.

Wearing your developers badge, you posted a poll with a very misleading title followed by a convoluted explanation in an official communication channel in the mid of high season.

It is obvious that people would have misconceptions, you canā€™t shield behind subtleties and dismiss all critique saying ā€œhey, I didnā€™t write thatā€, when the context is yelling at them the contrary. Yes, you didnā€™t write that, but if you are proposing a logo change, you must know very well that words are far from being the sole device that communicates.

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With respect, did you read the original post? It basically says ā€œHey! Someone made these designs for something else entirely but we ended up chatting officiously about how some kinda looked like a logos for Plasma. What do you folks think? Do you have your own ideas?ā€

And it snowballed from there.

P.S.: What has my flair got to do with anything?

P.S.S.: Note I am not loving your accusatory tone and quite offended at the implication I am somehow trying to mislead people. I mean, why would I do that and what on Godā€™s Green Earth would I gain with it, pray?

This is a place for polite discourse, not mudslinging. You may want to reign it in a bit.

A KDE dev flair indicates some authority making it look official. A passing on means a process in place and final say suggest an intended outcome. Non-binding just sounds like ā€œthis input will be considered but there will be a committee beyond that which may overruleā€.

Not gonna lie, with the desktop-picture contest going on I was under the impression this was officialā„¢.

So there was some miscommunication, unfortunate wording etc. But it is cleared up. So let us put it to rest.

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Chose the Thingy design but I donā€™t personally agree with those connecting lines in the design. It makes it look ā€œweirdā€ for me. The other two designed with disconnected circles look very appealing to me.

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A KDE dev flair indicates some authority making it look official.

Ooof! No. It just means I have a KDE developer account because I have to do stuff (mainly write stuff for websites) on invent.kde.org. Thatā€™s it. Donā€™t read too much into the flairs.

A passing on means a process in place and final say suggest an intended outcome. Non-binding just sounds like ā€œthis input will be considered but there will be a committee beyond that which may overruleā€.

All true. The people considering what a potential logo could look like areā€¦ YOU! Hence the poll.

Not gonna lie, with the desktop-picture contest going on I was under the impression this was officialā„¢.

Okay, sorry for the confusion, but, no. When we posted the original, it was a very much an off-the-cuff moment and more akin to those rather silly ā€œWhich distro do you prefer?ā€ polls that pop up on social media than a true, well-thought out competition.

Of course, there was the idea in the back of our minds that it could be a useful one day. The kind of thing to find out and use at a later date if there was at some point a really strong desire to change the logo

Disclaimer: I am in favour of this, but that is based on a personal opinion, and personal opinions make terrible reasons to change anything.

So there was some miscommunication, unfortunate wording etc.

Agree with the first bit, disagree with the second: More like bad timing: another ongoing story got mixed up with this one in the forum membersā€™ minds. This is something perfectly understandable, by the way: If we had posted this in the middle of 2024, say, with no wallpaper competition going on, my guess is that it would have generated less confusion.

Getting the timing wrongā€¦ Yeah, that was a faux pas.

But it is cleared up. So let us put it to rest.

Yes! Thanks for your understanding.