Not sure if this is a question for this forum or for Fedora. I’ve been testing Fedora 41 with Plasma for about a week now. Some annoyances here and there but the biggest problem is stability.
I get lots of UI lockups, when customizing the panel mostly, but often random freezes, notifications constantly popup about something crashing, apps hang and crash randomly, I had to hard-reset my PC several times already because the UI was frozen and I couldn’t kill or restart plasma because “plasma dumped core” or something. Then I installed a Steam game, Planetary Annihilation, total lockups and I remember I used to be able to run this game on Linux in the past just fine, playing videos in VLC is also problematic, I often get a black frame and I have to restart VLC, dragging other apps over VLC also makes it stutter sometimes.
When searching for soultions people seem to believe these are related to Wayland. This is actually the first time I got anything on Wayland to run for more than few hours, it was always a total disaster.
I also have an NVIDIA GPU and this is the main reason I picked Fedora 41 because it makes it easier to install latest NVIDIA drivers.
So yeah, will Plasma 6.2.4 work with X11? I hope there is a way to install Fedora KDE with 11.
This will be a Fedora thing. Most distros seem to include the bits needed for an x11 login session by default, and iirc Fedora doesn’t. I think that you just need to install them
As someone who’s using Fedora 41, Wayland session and an Nvidia card nearly problem-free… I know some of it may be due to luck with my specific configuration, but there are some things that would be worth checking before planning a switch to X11:
How did you install the Nvidia drivers?
Have you disabled the GSP firmware?
Those are probably more appropriate topics for the Fedora Discussion forum, as folks have said, but I wanted to mention those as topics to include in posts there to help diagnose.
If anyone wants a completely problem free Wayland experience, then swap out the Nvidia GPU for an AMD one; even onboard Intel graphics does better than Nvidia in terms of supporting the newer display server better.
X11 is essentially dead now. Time to move on. The KDE experience with Wayland is just better at this point. And with the right hardware (not Nvidia), it’s very smooth. That’s where things are at right now. Best part? AMD and Intel is basically plug and play on Linux. No messing with drivers.
Sometimes, you have to go out of your way to get the right hardware for the job; especially if having stability is your goal. Now, I know Nvidia fans don’t want to hear it (for reference, I was an Nvidia user; so spare me), but it’s the way things are.
X11 is essentially dead now. Time to move on. The KDE experience with Wayland is just better at this point.
Not for me. Wayland decided that I shouldn’t be allowed to do stuff that I’ve done for years, and now I have to wait for plasma’s compositor to support that stuff. Until I get it I’m staying on X11.
Well, X11 will most likely be dead by then. Up to you. There is a reason why KDE defaulted to Wayland at the start of Plasma 6. You’ll have to accept it one way or another. Or, you might have to use another desktop environment where the devs plan to make no further developments. The popular desktops are going to Wayland whether anyone likes it or not. Just how it is.
As someone with a 27" 4k monitor, I’m still waiting for the latest round of KDE Wayland fractional scaling updates to be pushed. ATM fractional scaling under Wayland still isn’t quite there yet, and that has nothing to do with Nvidia hardware/drivers.
No fan boy bickering I just stated experience with them, granted that was many many years ago. But in that time since then I have seen nothing but the same reports from people who use them. For Firefox download the .tar.bz file from the mozilla website extract it to put it your /home/user_name/bin directory if you have one and run it from there with it uninstalled from the system. It runs flawlessly doing this and has for as many years as I have done it. Forget how many now it has been forever really. Keep at it I am sure you will find one that will work with the nvidia though best to leave the kernel updating out of the picture this is where most all the problems are with it I see.
